tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24288613.post3131294504929549782..comments2023-12-03T03:04:42.826-05:00Comments on Conjubilant with Song: Thousand Thousand Saints AttendingC.W.S.http://www.blogger.com/profile/04745714524175357522noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24288613.post-13337453907582284242008-12-03T17:35:00.000-05:002008-12-03T17:35:00.000-05:00Everyone's looking for a loophole.I suppose it may...Everyone's looking for a loophole.<BR/><BR/>I suppose it may have been partly based on "let every heart prepare," but the first line still ends in "is come," not "is coming."C.W.S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04745714524175357522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24288613.post-6034833265951954562008-12-02T22:00:00.000-05:002008-12-02T22:00:00.000-05:00I've had a Lutheran pastor explain to me that "Joy...I've had a Lutheran pastor explain to me that "Joy to the World" is not explicitly a Christmas carol, and can be sung in Advent. I think he's correct, but as a paraphrase of Psalm 100, it really fits in nicely at the Christmas Day service.David Sindenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13712799107158044004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24288613.post-25986666667860819922008-12-02T16:06:00.000-05:002008-12-02T16:06:00.000-05:00Christmas carols in Advent? No. I have to hear t...Christmas carols in Advent? No. <BR/><BR/>I have to hear them starting in October out in the world at large -- in worship, they should remain unsung until Christmas Eve, though I know there is a lot of pressure exerted on worship leaders to start them early (a pre-Christmas event, such as your <I>Carols on the Porch</I> wouldn't count). And some traditions do not have a strong sense of Advent, so their hymnals may not have much to choose from for all four Sundays.<BR/><BR/>In a prior iteration of this blog, I posted one Advent hymn per day for the whole season, so there are certainly enough out there, if you draw on the full hymnic repertory. <BR/><BR/>But yes, the carols do creep in and I can't fault anyone for programming them on, say the fourth Sunday of Advent. But I'd prefer to worship somewhere where they don't.C.W.S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04745714524175357522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24288613.post-19206292169308369252008-12-02T04:32:00.000-05:002008-12-02T04:32:00.000-05:00Among the 24 hymnals I have catalogued so far, the...Among the 24 hymnals I have catalogued so far, these are the 12 most frequent Christmas/Advent/Epiphany carols/hymns (ranging from 19 to 23 occurrences):<BR/><BR/>Angels from the realms of glory<BR/>Angels we have heard on high<BR/>Away in a manger <BR/>Hark the herald angels sing<BR/>It came upon the midnight clear<BR/>Joy to the world <BR/>O come, all ye faithful<BR/>O come, O come, Emmanuel<BR/>O little town of Bethlehem<BR/>Silent night, holy night<BR/>The first Noel <BR/>What child is this<BR/><BR/>The next four (15 or 16 hits) are:<BR/><BR/>While shepherds watched<BR/>Go tell it on the mountain<BR/>Come thou long-expected Jesus<BR/>We three kings of orient are<BR/><BR/>I'd be very curious to know what ones that are not among these 16 you (or others) think are "must haves". I know people who would argue for:<BR/><BR/>O hearken ye<BR/>Some children see him<BR/>There's a song in the air<BR/>I heard the bells<BR/>God rest ye merry, gentlemen*<BR/>Good Christian men*, rejoice<BR/><BR/>and perhaps one or two others. To avoid further thread drift here I would encourage replies via <A HREF="http://cousinschristmas.blogspot.com/2008/12/dozen-unavoidable-christmas-carols.html" REL="nofollow">my CCCC blog, here</A>.Leland Bryant Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14211499185401035099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24288613.post-88504648754961219562008-12-02T02:13:00.000-05:002008-12-02T02:13:00.000-05:00The complete hymn is actually only twelve verses, ...The complete hymn is actually only twelve verses, so it should be possible to squeeze it in somewhere ;-) ... I agree that the "dozen or so Christmas carols that <B>have to be</B> sung" constitute one of the great impediments to Christian freedom ;-) and my personal preference would be to keep the vast majority of them for Christmas eve and the caroling party. (We'll be singing <I>Carols on the Porch</I> and inviting the neighbors in the evening of the fourteenth at Fremont Baptist.)<BR/><BR/>And some of them can be covered in Advent, don't you think?Leland Bryant Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14211499185401035099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24288613.post-39989190617922331862008-12-01T19:27:00.000-05:002008-12-01T19:27:00.000-05:00That would be an interesting opening hymn for Chri...That would be an interesting opening hymn for Christmas Day worship, but it's hard to supplant the dozen or so Christnmas carols that <B>have to be</B> sung, lest someone in the congregation miss their favorite. Hymnals always a have a few of these unfamiliar Christmas hymns and songs that are hardly ever sung.C.W.S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04745714524175357522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24288613.post-11753937608930477822008-12-01T01:32:00.000-05:002008-12-01T01:32:00.000-05:00I am fond of the tune HELMSLEY. Unfortunately, it ...I am fond of the tune HELMSLEY. Unfortunately, it is unknown in Baptist circles; on the rare occasions when we have sung it at Fremont Baptist, it has always been to REGENT SQUARE, a great tune but not one that needs yet another text.<BR/><BR/>I would also draw attention to the Christmas hymn modeled on this, "<A HREF="http://www.famouspotatoes.co.uk/fcarols/lohecomes.htm" REL="nofollow">Lo! [Christ] comes, an infant Stranger</A>":<BR/><BR/>Lo! he comes, an infant stranger, of a lowly mother born,<BR/>Swathed and cradled in a manger, of his pristine glory shorn!<BR/>Hallelujah! hallelujah! hallelujah! Praise the incarnate Word of God!<BR/><BR/>Lo! he comes, by man unfriended, fain with stable-beast to rest;<BR/>Shepherds, who their night-fold tended, hailed alone the new-born guest.<BR/>Hallelujah! hallelujah! hallelujah! Praise ye Jesse's tender rod!<BR/><BR/>Lo! he comes; but who the weakness of his coming may declare,<BR/>When, with more than human meekness, more than human woes he bare?<BR/>Hallelujah! hallelujah! hallelujah! Praise him, emptied of his might!<BR/><BR/>Lo! he comes, around him pouring all the armies of the sky;<BR/>Cherub-, seraph-host, adoring, swell his state and loudly cry:<BR/>Hallelujah! hallelujah! hallelujah! Praise ye him, the living Light! <BR/><BR/>The <I>New Oxford Book of Carols</I> gives the full umpteen-verse text.<BR/><BR/>Leland aka HaruoLeland Bryant Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14211499185401035099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24288613.post-89156848458595053362008-11-30T20:40:00.000-05:002008-11-30T20:40:00.000-05:00We didn't sing this hymn today either but I love t...We didn't sing this hymn today either but I love the sense of Christ's majesty and triumph that it conveys.Dorothyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02432234458348984602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24288613.post-12070995717569236112008-11-30T20:10:00.000-05:002008-11-30T20:10:00.000-05:00I LOVE this hymn. Unfortunately, it is not well k...I LOVE this hymn. Unfortunately, it is not well known in my congregation and we seldom sing it. Pity. Thank you for writing about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com