tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24288613.post9116662716577215229..comments2023-12-03T03:04:42.826-05:00Comments on Conjubilant with Song: More Voices Found: Lizzie TourjéeC.W.S.http://www.blogger.com/profile/04745714524175357522noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24288613.post-5253030300177074782008-09-11T00:23:00.000-04:002008-09-11T00:23:00.000-04:00No, I'm not completely satisfied with any tune I'v...No, I'm not completely satisfied with any tune I've heard with <I>There's a wideness in God's mercy</I>. I grew up with IN BABILONE. The MCC hymnal project used BEECHER, like the Episcopal Hymnal 1940. The Episco 1982 update has a modern tune by Calvin Hampton (ST. HELENA), a dreary thing. No decision yet on a tune.<BR/><BR/>Also, I'm pondering the ideal arrangement of the text, which varies widely from hymnal to hymnal. Four-line verses or eight-line ones (which of course has bearing on the tune too)? Which ones to use or leave out? (no one sings them all). I would definitely leave out the "Souls of men" verse, as many hymnals do. Some denominations cut-and-paste it even further, assembling couplets within verses in different orders.<BR/><BR/>Everyone likes the hymn, but no one agrees on a definitive version. So I'm taking some time to come up with my own, both text and tune. Maybe for author Frederick W. Faber's birthday next year(June 28) or maybe sooner.C.W.S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04745714524175357522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24288613.post-53093952671059935052008-09-09T17:31:00.000-04:002008-09-09T17:31:00.000-04:00I agree that this is a well met text for the tune,...I agree that this is a well met text for the tune, but one must still have the wideness in God's mercy. Among the hymnals I have indexed so far, "There's a Wideness" is set to <I>Wellesley</I> in 12 hymnals (including 5 of our 8 Evergreen ones) vs. 2 (1 of them EBA) that use <I>In Babilone</I>; I also show it once to <I>Stuttgart</I> (in the 1966 ABC-DOC <I>Hymns and Songs of the Spirit</I>) and once to <I>Richards</I> ("arranged from EMMELAR", presumably the same as TCH's <I>Armstrong (Richards)</I>, in the 1941 <I>Christian Worship</I>, which also gives <I>Wellesley</I> as a second tune). I see cyberhymnal.org has several other suggestions, but none seems to me clearly "right"; so I'm back to either <I>Wellesley</I> or <I>In Babilone</I>; what's your choice? And do you have an emendation for the "Souls of men" line? "Mortal souls" is the best I've come up with.<BR/><BR/>Leland aka HaruoLeland Bryant Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14211499185401035099noreply@blogger.com